Different uses for voting
need different types of voting. |
Rules of Order |
Listing related motions on a rank-vote ballot speeds voting and cuts dirty tricks. But it does not reduce the need for discussion or change the rules and order of discussion for parliamentary motions. All meetings that use voting can get these benefits. Online meetings may have the greatest need for these new rules.
Most councils still tied to old rules by their legal papers can try newer rules simply by passing a motion to form a “committee of the whole” 55, called to use the new rules while they make a decision and report it as a motion to the council, which may vote it up or down using the old rules. Some motions have to be taken sequentially, voted and tallied one at a time; for example, points of information or personal privilege and moves to recess or adjourn. But we can list amended versions of the main motion on a single ballot so the voter can rank each version. That will let voters reject free-rider and poison-pill amendments on this final ballot. It also prevents the dirty trick of requiring a particular option to win a majority against all others put together. These are the parliamentary motions that a council can require on its rank-choice preference ballots: A) Continue Discussion, B) No Change, C) The Main Motion, D) Amended Versions of the main motion, and E) Divide the Question to simplify a motion. Rob's Rules of OrderOrder of Precedence is shown with the dominant motions listed highest. A new motion may be discussed if its precedence is higher than the current discussion. Discussion of a motion ends when its allotted time expires, (or when a super majority of members turn their debate cards from green to red). Discuss all motions on a topic before voting any of them. Rank all of a topic's motions and their amendments on one rank-choice ballot. Tally to find the Condorcet winner. If no item wins each of its Pairwise contests, then the council has three options:
Table 1, Main MotionsRank the main motion and amended versions of it at the same time.
Section numbers on the right refer to recent editions of Robert's Rules of Order. Henry Martyn Robert wrote the original version in 1876. |
You say,
“I move to ... ” |
Interruption
allowed |
Second
required |
Discussion
allowed |
Amend
allowed |
Vote
required |
Section
number |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Vote on the previous question | No | Yes | No | No | 2/3 | 29 |
Amend the motion by ... | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Majority | 33 |
Bring new business | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Majority | |
Continue current policy | No | No | No | No | Majority | NA |
Table 2, Motions to DelayMotions to delay a decision are common in legislative discussions. But a majority may have the power to strike these options from the rank-choice ballot. That makes a deadlock impossible unless a majority explicitly allows it.Motions to delay include:
Table 2, Motions that Interrupt or Stop Discussion of this Topic
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You say, “I move to ... ” | Interrupt | Second | Discuss | Amend | Vote | Section |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Table the question | No | Yes | No | No | Majority | 28 |
Limit (or extend) discussion to ... | No | Yes | No | Yes | 2/3 | 30 |
Postpone the motion to ... | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Majority | 31 |
Refer the motion to a committee | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Majority | 32 |
Postpone motion indefinitely | No | Yes | Yes | No | Majority | 34 |
Continue discussion | No | No | No | No | Majority | NA |
Table 3, Motions to Re-examine a QuestionTable 3 lists motions which have no order of precedence. Each is permitted only when no other question is pending. So they do not use rank-choice ballots. |
You say, “I move to ... ” | Interrupt | Second | Discuss | Amend | Vote | Section |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Take a motion from the table ... | No | Yes | No | No | Majority | 35 |
Reconsider a motion ... | No | Yes | Varies | No | Majority | 36 |
Rescind (cancel) a previous action | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | 2/3 or Majority
with notice |
37 |
Table 4, Incidental MotionsThese motions arise incidentally and are decided immediately by the Chair or by an up or down vote. They do not need rank-choice ballots, except when “Divide the Question” includes several amended versions. They have no order of precedence. Discussion of a motion ends when its allotted time expires, or when a super majority of the members turn their cards from green to red. |
You say, | Interrupt | Second | Discuss | Amend | Vote | Section |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
I rise for a question of privilege.
(personal complaint or request) |
Yes | No | No | No | None | 19 |
I call for the orders of the day.
(return to the agenda) |
Yes | No | No | No | None | 20 |
I call for a point of order.
(enforce the rules) |
Yes | No | No | No | None | 21 |
I move to appeal the chair's decision
to the assembly. |
Yes | Yes | Varies | No | Majority | 21 |
I move to suspend the rules. | No | Yes | No | No | 2/3 | 22 |
I object to consideration of the question. | Yes | No | No | No | 2/3 | 23 |
I move to divide the question (motion). | No | Yes | No | Yes | Majority | 24 |
I call for a rising vote. | Yes | No | No | No | None | 25 |
I ask a parliamentary inquiry.
(procedural question) |
Yes | No | No | No | None | 27 |
I ask a point of information. | Yes | No | No | No | None | 27 |
Table 5, Motions that Stop the MeetingHouse rules might allow several lengths of recess. Any that members move and second go on the ballot. The pair-wise Condorcet winner has majorities over all other lengths. Old, sequential agenda rules would select the first one to win a majority. |
You say,
“I move to ... ” |
Interruption
allowed |
Second
required |
Discussion
allowed |
Amend
allowed |
Vote
required |
Section
number |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Adjourn | No | Yes | No | No | Majority | 17 |
Recess for ... | No | Yes | No | Yes | Majority | 18 |
Continue meeting | No | No | No | No | Majority | NA |
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